No 2014 card can complete the set. Tweet a Ginter year and name that does. You'll know what # to use. #thegintercode pic.twitter.com/uZVNrh9f8K
— Ginter Code (@TheGinterCode) March 25, 2015
A word of advice: Don't be rash with that hashtag. You'll probably know it before all the pieces have fallen into place. #thegintercode
— GinterCode (@TheGinterCode) March 25, 2015
This one ended up being fundamentally the simplest point that we solved (maybe a tie with the "Willow Cove Point"). It helped that we took a simple approach to it, whereas we severely over-thought many of these other points. It also helped that we had spent a lot of hours on the 2013 Ginter Code, because there was a similar mechanism in play.
For your entertainment ... I present you with a full Google Chat History between Jim and I. :)
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Grant Miller
FWIW ... my suspicion
here is something with birthday + card number combos9:10 PM
But I don't care9:10 PM
Jim Melichar
ok9:15 PM
why do you think that9:16 PM
Grant Miller
Why? Because it's a
set, and that implies it doesn't necessarily have an order9:19 PM
I think I've got it9:20 PM
Proximity of card
number to birthday9:21 PM
I have only checked 4
cards9:21 PM
But every one of those
4 ... birthday is within just a few days of card #9:21 PM
Dickey, 300, Oct 299:22 PM
Jim Melichar
ok9:22 PM
so you'll need someone
not in this set9:22 PM
Grant Miller
Baker, 171, June 159:22 PM
Medlen, 286, October
15 or something9:22 PM
Jim Melichar
is there a pattern to
the days or card numbers?9:22 PM
oh9:22 PM
Grant Miller
Not sure9:22 PM
Jim Melichar
one for every month?9:22 PM
duh9:22 PM
129:22 PM
Grant Miller
Right9:22 PM
Not every month9:23 PM
Jim Melichar
no?9:23 PM
Grant Miller
Probably Zodiac or
something9:23 PM
Two Octobers already9:23 PM
Jim Melichar
ok, fair enough9:23 PM
what are they?9:23 PM
before and after the
23rd?9:23 PM
Grant Miller
Yep9:23 PM
Jim Melichar
done deal9:23 PM
let's do this9:23 PM
how can i help?9:24 PM
Grant Miller
You got any time?9:24 PM
Jim Melichar
all the time in the
world9:24 PM
Grant Miller
I can't for another 30
min or so9:24 PM
Jim Melichar
but no data9:24 PM
do you have the data?9:24 PM
Grant Miller
I am literally using
COMC on my phone9:24 PM
Jim Melichar
ok, i can do this9:24 PM
stop9:24 PM
i'll do it9:24 PM
he's saying there's a
hashtag from it?9:25 PM
Grant Miller
Trick is figuring out
the hashtag9:25 PM
Right9:25 PM
Jim Melichar
ok9:25 PM
Grant Miller
He implies you'll know
it though9:25 PM
Hmmm9:25 PM
This is it Jimmy9:29 PM
Josh Donaldson, 337,
Dec 89:29 PM
Hey, you around?9:36 PM
"Don't be rash
with that hashtag. You'll probably know it before all the pieces fall into
place."9:36 PM
PISCES9:37 PM
I bet your hashtag is
something along those lines9:37
PM
Jim Melichar
yeah9:38 PM
i know9:38 PM
looking for a pisces9:39 PM
not sure how, why,
what yet9:39 PM
probably know it,
might be a nostradomus thing9:39
PM
we'll see9:39 PM
Grant Miller
May just be pisces9:39 PM
#pisces9:39 PM
Excellent work Jim9:39 PM
Jim Melichar
getting there9:40 PM
let me do the
sleuthing ont he date diffs9:40
PM
i see where it's going9:42 PM
gimme a min here9:42 PM
Grant Miller
Can't believe it was
the first thing we tried9:42 PM
Ruth 20 is Aquarius?9:43 PM
Jim Melichar
yes9:45 PM
remember those move9:45 PM
here's an update9:45 PM
via email9:45 PM
didn't work out as i
thought9:45 PM
@#@#@# formatting9:45 PM
sorry9:45 PM
Grant Miller
Aquarius starts Jan 219:46 PM
Ruth is 209:46 PM
That's my problem9:46 PM
Card # and Birthday
need to be in same sign9:47 PM
I think9:47 PM
Jim Melichar
that's what i'm saying
grant9:48 PM
they change/move9:48 PM
i remember this from
the 2010 code9:48 PM
there's all sorts of
lists of start and end dates9:48
PM
otherwise it breaks
down9:49 PM
Grant Miller
Good9:51 PM
That one works9:51 PM
Ok9:51 PM
I bet we just need a
card9:51 PM
And #pisces9:51 PM
Thoughts?9:51 PM
Jim Melichar
hmmm9:52 PM
i was hoping each
difference would give a number between 1 and 129:52 PM
Grant Miller
That would be too much9:52 PM
Just has to fit the
pattern of being in same sign9:53
PM
Jim Melichar
yup9:53 PM
yup9:53 PM
no one in this set9:53 PM
so we have to look
through birthdays of every other set9:53 PM
Grant Miller
Verified that?9:53 PM
Jim Melichar
for card numbers9:53 PM
Grant Miller
Did you verify there's
no one in 2014 set?9:53 PM
Jim Melichar
he said it's not9:54 PM
no one in this set
will do it9:54 PM
he says9:54 PM
Grant Miller
I know9:54 PM
But it's confirmation
that it's Zodiac9:54 PM
Not something else9:54 PM
Jim Melichar
so between here hold
on9:54 PM
between card number 51
and 809:55 PM
in each set9:55 PM
someone with a Picses
bday9:55 PM
can we split this up9:55 PM
what do you want me to
bother checking that's wasting our head start? :)9:55 PM
i'm going ot the 2013
set now9:55 PM
Grant Miller
What is the hashtag?9:55 PM
Jim Melichar
#pisces9:55 PM
i'm going to 2013 on
comc9:56 PM
ordering by card
number9:56 PM
Grant Miller
You sure??9:56 PM
Jim Melichar
checking cards 51 to
809:56 PM
yes9:56 PM
do 2012 if you can9:56 PM
and every even year
there before9:56 PM
i'll do odds9:56 PM
2013 2011 2009 etc9:56 PM
:)9:56 PM
see you soon9:56 PM
going to 201110:03 PM
done with 201110:08 PM
doing 200910:08 PM
THIS IS NOT THE ANSWER10:10 PM
Grant Miller
Huh?10:10 PM
Jim Melichar
but aaron hill 2009 is
march 21st card number 5210:10 PM
just didn't want you
to jump10:10 PM
but i have it going
from feb 20 to mar 2010:11 PM
Grant Miller
Lol10:11 PM
Jim Melichar
in case we have the
dates off by a day10:11 PM
logging it10:11 PM
next card was it10:11 PM
Grant Miller
Got it10:11 PM
Jim Melichar
Clayton Kershaw10:11 PM
i got it10:11 PM
Grant Miller
Ok10:11 PM
Me too10:11 PM
Jim Melichar
card 53 Kershaw 200910:11 PM
what did you get?10:12 PM
Grant Miller
Aroldis Chapman10:12 PM
Jim Melichar
what year?10:12 PM
Grant Miller
70, Feb 2810:12 PM
201210:12 PM
Jim Melichar
ok10:12 PM
so10:12 PM
Grant Miller
Doesn't matter to me10:12 PM
Jim Melichar
we have two10:12 PM
i don't care either10:12 PM
does he say there's
one answer?10:12 PM
which is more solidly
in any given range10:12 PM
Grant Miller
No10:13 PM
Chapman is 70 and 5910:13 PM
In the middle10:13 PM
Jim Melichar
ok go10:13 PM
do it10:13 PM
we're done10:13 PM
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In case the chat was hard to follow ... we noted that the 11 cards we were given, all were such that the birthdays and card numbers (converted to Month/Day, e.g. Card #1 --> January 1) on each card both fell within the same Zodiac sign. The only one missing was Pisces. So we had to find a card from a different year of Ginter that satisfied the rule of the card number and birthday both being roughly between Feb 21 and Mar 21, or 52 and 80. We submitted the card below, along with hashtag #pisces, and scored the point.
@TheGinterCode 2012 Aroldis Chapman #pisces pic.twitter.com/gcCCLqRmLm
— ParanoidAndrew (@ParanoidAndrew) March 26, 2015
For the record you can view how sick in the head I am from the 2010 and 2013 code. "Are the October birthdays before and after the 23rd?" Too funny. I'd forgotten about this point in terms of the quick solve timeline.
ReplyDeleteI took the night off to try to be a good husband. Wrong night for that! :)
ReplyDeleteYup, we had to install the 5-9pm code blackout period. Otherwise Grant and I would be raising our 16 children together somewhere in indiana talking about "back when we were married" while we sat around building our Poem Point Beautiful Mind room.
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